The City of Toronto wanted to charge an outrageous fee to provide an electronic map of downtown Toronto (showing blocks, building outlines - 2D), for something that was available in hard copy, over the counter. The fee was in the many thousands of dollars. This was circa 1995. It was to be used in a presentation to demonstrate certain facilities in proximity to a downtown high-rise office tower. My client was in the final running of attracting a major tenant from new York to Toronto. My client felt as I did, that this was a form of government robbery. The tenant considered this action by the City of Toronto as a rather negative approach. They selected elsewhere. At URISA national, international and provincial meetings this subject has been discussed over and over again. Bottom line is that government goe-projects have been paid for through taxation, why should the public have to pay over and over again. Some cities in the US give away on CD their geo-data, for free. They know the pay back. The current approach of charging for such data actually discourages analytical assessment and presentation, thus putting a variety of Canadian entities at a disadvantage when competing against those who receive the same for free. Take a look at how you can get US census data, in geo-formats, the quality and detail, at minimal costs. Garry McGonigal Corporate Environment Consultants 1748 Hebert St., Tecumseh, Ont. N8N 4G2 (519)735-9449 cecwin@mnsi.net